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 Post subject: Using an Exploit will result in being banned from all games
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 4:56 pm 
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This announcement is for anyone using any kind of an exploit in this game that shouldn't be in the game. This include obvious and obscure exploits.

We know that some people have been trying to find a way to use things in manners that they shouldn't be able to use them in an effort to gain an advantage in the game.

If you think something isn't working right you need to PM one of the Admins of the game in this forum. If you don't you may get banned from the game.

If anyone is caught using ANY kind of exploit you will be banned from this game and all future games.

If you find an exploit and immediately let us know about exploits you find and how you accomplished it then you have nothing to worry about. We can then fix it so no one else can use it.

We very much appreciate those people who find exploits and notify us about them because it allows us to make the game fair and fun for everyone.

For those of you who use exploits in the future and do not notify us you have been warned and will be BANNED.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 3:59 pm 
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We have just banned IP's of three users for using an exploit to make piles of cash. Please do not be the next user we cut out of the game. We watch this game very closely, so if you think you can't be caught you are wrong. If you enjoy playing the game. Please play fair like everyone else is.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 4:09 pm 
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Kayosoni wrote:
What about reaper though? 3000 turns and he's got 290k or something. And he was obviously involved with that freak guy...

Has he cheated as well?


The entire IP range was banned. So they can no longer login. And yes he is gone as well.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:04 pm 
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I hate to say it but we are STILL trying to figure out exactly how they accomplished this little exploit.

Three accounts were used, Reaper, Tomcat and Fr3ak. And don't ask about the email addresses that were used. I think everyone can figure that out.

The logs show some very interesting activity.

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Planet captured! May 16 2003 15:24
You captured a planet belonging to Fr3ak. It had 2335 colonists and 1543 credits on it.

Planet captured! May 16 2003 15:24
You captured a planet belonging to Fr3ak. It had 2335 colonists and 1543 credits on it.

Planet captured! May 16 2003 15:24
You captured a planet belonging to Fr3ak. It had 2335 colonists and 1488 credits on it.

Planet captured! May 16 2003 15:24
You captured a planet belonging to Fr3ak. It had 1738 colonists and 1142 credits on it.

Planet defeated! May 16 2003 15:23
Your planet in sector 6464 was defeated in battle by the wretched Reaper. The people of the planet welcome their new ruler. You hear a testimony on NNN : "We're glad to be rid of that old fart! We don't want no stinking loser who can't protect us!". You swear to make them pay for their arrogance.

Planet defeated! May 16 2003 15:23
Your planet in sector 6464 was defeated in battle by the wretched Reaper. The people of the planet welcome their new ruler. You hear a testimony on NNN : "We're glad to be rid of that old fart! We don't want no stinking loser who can't protect us!". You swear to make them pay for their arrogance.

Planet defeated! May 16 2003 15:23
Your planet in sector 6464 was defeated in battle by the wretched Reaper. The people of the planet welcome their new ruler. You hear a testimony on NNN : "We're glad to be rid of that old fart! We don't want no stinking loser who can't protect us!". You swear to make them pay for their arrogance.

Planet defeated! May 16 2003 15:23
Your planet in sector 6464 was defeated in battle by the wretched Reaper. The people of the planet welcome their new ruler. You hear a testimony on NNN : "We're glad to be rid of that old fart! We don't want no stinking loser who can't protect us!". You swear to make them pay for their arrogance.


The log just for Fr3ak shows a series of these entries approximately 38 sets of 4. There isn't any loop in the game that would cause this to happen. And it shouldn't happen during normal combat. They ended up creating over 150 bounties in the 1-4 billion range for each bounty depending upon the player. They then traded off between the three players boosting bounties this way so they could have one mega player.

This was about as blatent as you can get when it comes to cheating. If we find ANY other player who attacks the same planet and defeates it multiple times (even twice), similar to what the log above shows, that player will be immediately banned unless they tell us exactly how they accomplished it so we can plug that hole.

We will find the hole and plug it you can be sure about it.

Even after we WARNED people we would ban them for using an exploit these three players STILL used it. I think all three are the same person and even that is a reason for banning them because a player cannot have multiple accounts in our games. I mean this amount of stupidity shows no bounds.

And what is really bad is that they almost took the server down with this exploit causing us to reset it. We think they found a way to refresh attacks that shouldn't work. They then either rapidly hit the refresh on their browser or ran an external program, macro or browser feature to cause massive refreshes.

Logs for the player and EXTRA logs are maintained in the admin so these things can EASILY be caught.

If you find the exploit or ANY exploit let us know about it because we WILL catch you and you WILL be banned and not allowed to ever play again.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:33 pm 
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That is different. That's the way the sector defense routines work. :) If you have both fighters and mines in the sector you will see two messages. If you only have one of them you will only see one message.


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You know the log for you is quite interesting.

There isn't any way you could have done what you did without the other person being in the same room or you having TWO browsers open and alternately refreshing each screen.

You were using an exploit to gain ranking. If you would have told us about it by being an HONORABLE player you would not be banned and we would have been able to fix the problem. And the problem WILL be fixed and in a manner that is mean and nasty and will end up costing alot of money for people using it. And the Federation has been added to the game and they will start killing players who get Federation bounties too quickly or too high. And the type of death may be one where the player is destroyed even if they have an escape pod.

You exposed an expoit and tried to capitalize on it and got caught. This thread WARNED you about using an exploit like this but you ignored it and are trying to play the innocent. Sorry it doesn't wash.

You did NOT attack 50 other planets. That is an outright lie on your part. You and your friend who wasn't even going to play the game used an exploit to attack the SAME planet over 150 times in an effort to get a huge bounty that could be transfered to the another player. That is using an exploit. So don't try to lie to the people in this game as the logs prove you wrong.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:36 pm 
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I thought something was up when Tomcat captured 12 of my planets all within minutes of each other and they were in very remote locations from each other all with no warp links.


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You had never even been to a few of the sectors, and I know there were no spies. I know they were low level, they were farms, nothing special. But the fact that they were across the entire map it was rather suspicious.

I say keep him banned. Find another server to play on and see if you don't get banned there too. Yeah you did something that was a way to get money without much trouble, but common sense says that is was underhanded.


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Kayosoni wrote:
That was just some guy taking lots of planets. :P

It's a shame he blew himself up on a planet and no one got his 600b bounty...


Well if it keeps up and we do not find a solution, you may see the only one making any money on fed bounties will be the feds.


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I have a solution and it isn't pretty. It is next on my list of things to get finished.

And if a person gets too many federation bounties placed on themselves then ONLY the federation can collect them and they will not be erased when the player dies unless they die by the feds killing them.

Like I said not pretty but very, very effective and it will stop players who try the cheating exploit that Reaper tried.


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Actually you CAN buy stuff at Kabal Space device and upgrade ports if you have a federation bounty. It's just that the cost is way high.


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Not anymore. If you hit the federation bounty limit getting blown up won't remove the bounty. Either you pay it off or the fed ship keeps killing you until it is paid off.


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